December 8, 2006 (December 30, 2006 - Still "NO" response?)
Idaho Health and Welfare
450 West State Street, 5th Floor
Boise, Idaho 83720-0036
The Idaho Statesman Letters to the Editor, recently (12-07-06) printed an opinion piece written by Jill Reese which raised questions for me regarding benefits provided to illegal aliens by the Idaho Department of Health and Welfare.
Ms. Reese wrote “The Bush administration has decided to abandon it’s pledge to leave no child behind. It has selected a category of children to abandon - newborn children, citizens of the United States, born to "undocumented parents," (illegal aliens) She goes on to say…”Undocumented (illegal aliens) people are already shut out of public benefits. One small exception is emergency Medicaid.”
My questions to IDHW are:
1) What agencies of the Federal Government, State Government and Local Government (American tax payers) fund Idaho Department of Health and Welfare?
2) Does IDHW receive grant money from the White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives (Catholic Charities, etc,)?
3) Exactly what benefits are provided for “Anchor Babies”? (An interpretation used by the courts to provide birthright citizenship to children born on American soil to illegal aliens.)
4) What benefits are provided for illegal aliens?
5) What is the cost to American taxpaying citizens of America in Idaho for all the above benefits given to illegal aliens?
On your web-site I noticed certain questions of interest in regards to benefits with regard to non U.S. citizens. However, when I attempted to access the “Frequently Asked Questions”, no answers were provided. Would you please provide me answers to the following questions?
Frequently Asked Questions
Q: I don't have a green card but members of my family do. If my family members use benefits, will that prevent me from getting a green card in the future?
Q: If I am a refugee or asylee, will receiving benefits stop me from getting a green card?
Q: If I or a family member has a green card will it be taken away if we receive benefits?
Q: Who has to provide a Social Security Number when applying for benefits?
Q: Will the Department of Health and Welfare report me to the INS for applying for benefits for myself or my family?
In an article written June 16, 2001, Mr. Joe Guzzardi, an educator in Lodi, CA, and a writer for VDARE, he noted: “
“Mexico knows where it wants to go: THE U.S.”
I quote from the article; “The biggest boost for Mexico comes from our most preposterous law, the so-called “anchor baby” rule.
Illegal aliens don’t have to do or prove anything. And they don’t have to part with a dime. What awaits them is free pre-natal care and child delivery. The number of births to illegal aliens may be as high as 350,000 annually. More than 60 percent of all babies born in Los Angeles community hospitals are born to illegals.”
It was also written, “the automatic birth citizenship is common knowledge in Mexico and a huge incentive to illegal immigration.”
As an American citizen and taxpayer I am very concerned with illegal immigration and it social/economic effects on this country.
I look forward to your response to my questions regarding benefits IDHW provides to illegal immigrants.
Thanks for your consideration.
Sincerely,
Jack M. Moutrie
Additional Immigration information:
www.allaboutimmigration.blogspot.com
www.allaboutillegalimmigration.blogspot.com
Saturday, December 30, 2006
Saturday, December 16, 2006
THIS IS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! NOT THE DIVERSIFIED STATES OF AMERICA!
Posted by Mwalltexan on Saturday December 16, 2006 at 3:09 pm PHXnews.com
Illegal aliens and many legal immigrants enter this country and insist upon living and behaving as if they were still in their countries of origin.
That is not acceptable!
Muslims in this country behave with total disregard for those around them... like those arrogant Imams at the airport.
They have set up their own enclaves within our borders where they insist upon living and behaving as if they were still in their countries of origin.
Our reprehensible government not only allows this to happen..... it promotes it!
Muslims sue at the drop of a hat for any perceived slight no matter how ridiculous.... an action not available in their own countries where dissent often costs the dissenter their head.
Mexicans both legal and illegal sue at the drop of a hat for any perceived slight no matter how ridiculous.... A lawsuit in Mexico by an illegal alien would not even be possible.
History reflects that diversity within a country.... destroys that country.
Unity is the glue that holds a country and its people together against all who would destroy it.
Unity promotes strength of purpose and binds a country together.
This is the UNITED States of America! ... Not the DIVERSIFIED States of America!
What legal immigrants, illegal aliens and their advocates fail to grasp is the very concept of respect.
They will not get respect by demanding it...nor should they.
Genuine and True respect is only accorded to those who earn it by their actions.
Regarding all of the lawsuits......
We need to return the favor..... Americans by the thousands need to sue the government,
Michael Chertoff and Alberto Gonzales for their failure to enforce our laws and secure our borders.
Americans by the thousands need to sue every time an illegal alien harms an American..... Every time they steal an identity.
Every American on that plane with those Imams needs to sue each of them individually!
Americans by the thousands need to sue any and every Judge, official or politician who does not place the rights of Americans above those illegally in our country.
We need to implement existing sedition laws that allow us to legally hold accountable all organizations, politicians and individuals who aid and abet the presence of illegal aliens in our country.
We can set up a fund and every group... every individual American can contribute according to their own means... even if it is only a dollar.
We can do many things if we act as one for the sake of our country and one another!
Always remember.....
United we are formidable!
Divided we are no threat at all. ... Marge
Additional Immigration Information: www.allaboutillegalimmigration.blogspot.com
Illegal aliens and many legal immigrants enter this country and insist upon living and behaving as if they were still in their countries of origin.
That is not acceptable!
Muslims in this country behave with total disregard for those around them... like those arrogant Imams at the airport.
They have set up their own enclaves within our borders where they insist upon living and behaving as if they were still in their countries of origin.
Our reprehensible government not only allows this to happen..... it promotes it!
Muslims sue at the drop of a hat for any perceived slight no matter how ridiculous.... an action not available in their own countries where dissent often costs the dissenter their head.
Mexicans both legal and illegal sue at the drop of a hat for any perceived slight no matter how ridiculous.... A lawsuit in Mexico by an illegal alien would not even be possible.
History reflects that diversity within a country.... destroys that country.
Unity is the glue that holds a country and its people together against all who would destroy it.
Unity promotes strength of purpose and binds a country together.
This is the UNITED States of America! ... Not the DIVERSIFIED States of America!
What legal immigrants, illegal aliens and their advocates fail to grasp is the very concept of respect.
They will not get respect by demanding it...nor should they.
Genuine and True respect is only accorded to those who earn it by their actions.
Regarding all of the lawsuits......
We need to return the favor..... Americans by the thousands need to sue the government,
Michael Chertoff and Alberto Gonzales for their failure to enforce our laws and secure our borders.
Americans by the thousands need to sue every time an illegal alien harms an American..... Every time they steal an identity.
Every American on that plane with those Imams needs to sue each of them individually!
Americans by the thousands need to sue any and every Judge, official or politician who does not place the rights of Americans above those illegally in our country.
We need to implement existing sedition laws that allow us to legally hold accountable all organizations, politicians and individuals who aid and abet the presence of illegal aliens in our country.
We can set up a fund and every group... every individual American can contribute according to their own means... even if it is only a dollar.
We can do many things if we act as one for the sake of our country and one another!
Always remember.....
United we are formidable!
Divided we are no threat at all. ... Marge
Additional Immigration Information: www.allaboutillegalimmigration.blogspot.com
Sunday, December 10, 2006
John McCain, a Democrat in GOP clothing.....by Bob Haran
Posted by Bob Haran on Saturday December 9, 2006 at 11:24 am MST PHXnews.com
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John McCain, a Democrat in GOP clothing Has anyone ever considered that maybe McCain is in the wrong party, that he just might be a closet Democrat or a Manchurian candidate?
Let's look at his history in the senate;
McCain/Lieberman Gun Show Bill that infringed on the Second Amendment,
McCain/Feingold Campaign Finance Law that infringed on the First Amendment,
McCain/Kennedy illegal immigrant amnesty bill, to make illegal immigrants legal immigrants on a path to citizenship, (McCain claims that this is not an amnesty)!
McCain's support of Clinton's recognition of Communist Vietnam, (thanks McCain, all us Vietnam vets love wearing shirts made by hands with the blood of our comrades still fresh on them),
McCain's involvement as the fifth member of the Keating Five with four Democrats,
McCain's support for NAFTA, However, NAFTA was pushed by Republican's and Clinton,
does that make McCain a Democrat or just another political prostitute paid for by greedy business interest?
McCain's support for CAFTA, (well that proves he's a political prostitute working against the American worker and for the greedy business interests)
McCain voted with the Democrats against the Federal Marriage Amendment to ban homosexual marriage, (maybe McCain SUCKING up to the Log Cabin Republicans in Washington but he did pander to the right in Arizona by supporting the Protect Marriage Amendment),
Now McCain is getting in bed with Chuck Schumer, who tried to have Jon Kyl replaced in the Senate by a liberal Democrat.
The hero worshiping, country club Republican kool aid drinkers should ask themselves, is John McCain a Republican or a Democrat in GOP clothing?
Bob Haran,
Independent Conservative and Vietnam veteran against McCain and amnesty.
www.Bob-Haran.info
Additional Immigration Information: www.allaboutimmigration.blogspot.com
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John McCain, a Democrat in GOP clothing Has anyone ever considered that maybe McCain is in the wrong party, that he just might be a closet Democrat or a Manchurian candidate?
Let's look at his history in the senate;
McCain/Lieberman Gun Show Bill that infringed on the Second Amendment,
McCain/Feingold Campaign Finance Law that infringed on the First Amendment,
McCain/Kennedy illegal immigrant amnesty bill, to make illegal immigrants legal immigrants on a path to citizenship, (McCain claims that this is not an amnesty)!
McCain's support of Clinton's recognition of Communist Vietnam, (thanks McCain, all us Vietnam vets love wearing shirts made by hands with the blood of our comrades still fresh on them),
McCain's involvement as the fifth member of the Keating Five with four Democrats,
McCain's support for NAFTA, However, NAFTA was pushed by Republican's and Clinton,
does that make McCain a Democrat or just another political prostitute paid for by greedy business interest?
McCain's support for CAFTA, (well that proves he's a political prostitute working against the American worker and for the greedy business interests)
McCain voted with the Democrats against the Federal Marriage Amendment to ban homosexual marriage, (maybe McCain SUCKING up to the Log Cabin Republicans in Washington but he did pander to the right in Arizona by supporting the Protect Marriage Amendment),
Now McCain is getting in bed with Chuck Schumer, who tried to have Jon Kyl replaced in the Senate by a liberal Democrat.
The hero worshiping, country club Republican kool aid drinkers should ask themselves, is John McCain a Republican or a Democrat in GOP clothing?
Bob Haran,
Independent Conservative and Vietnam veteran against McCain and amnesty.
www.Bob-Haran.info
Additional Immigration Information: www.allaboutimmigration.blogspot.com
Saturday, September 23, 2006
Dear Idaho State Legislator:
In late August, we sent you a letter describing our concern for the lack of immigration law enforcement in Idaho by state and local officers. We asked for a reply to these concerns, and to date we have not heard from you. Should we imply from your lack of response that you do not believe that illegal aliens are a problem in Idaho or in the nation?
It is quite obvious the Treasure Valley political leaders show no concern of the fact the invasion of this nation by illegal aliens is a criminal offense and is punishable by law.
It is of the opinion this Government is for the Corporations, of the Corporations, by the Corporations.
December 18, 2005, The Idaho Press-Tribune published an article written by reporter, Ben Fletcher, titled, “Most unauthorized illegals not deported.” Mr. Fletcher wrote the following; I quote;
“CANYON COUNTY - As it stands, most undocumented immigrants living locally will not be deported. A combination of policies, procedures, resources and inadequate incarceration space ensure Canyon County stands as a safe haven for illegal immigrants.
Federal agents working locally don’t shy away from offering an explanation either.
“For general illegal aliens, we do not have the resources to pursue it,”
said Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Senior Special Agent,
Jeff Wolstenholme. “We do not have the manpower to do our job.” End of quote.
Surely, you are aware of the debate going on in Congress how best to resolve the issues regarding immigration. The House has been championing a "seal the border first" approach, while the Senate has chosen to create a literal nightmare by granting legality to millions of illegal aliens. It is our contention that our nation does not need to grow by 100 million persons in the next 20-30 years, or to a billion by centuries end, to satisfy employers desire for cheaper labor. Such an approach will be disastrous for the environment and the quality of life we now enjoy.
We could cite a multitude of studies and comments dwelling on the effects of an exploding unskilled population on land use, loss of farmland, dwindling water supplies, a general increase in crime, and ever increasing costs to support these immigrants.
We feel that if you are not aware of this danger, then you owe it to your family, and descendants to learn the facts. You also owe it the citizens of the State to protect their interests, and not sellout to corporate interests for private gain.
We are perplexed why Idaho's legislature is not doing anything to control the increase in the illegal alien population.
We believe that the Federal Government has not prevented State and Local Law Enforcement from enforcing existing immigration laws, and that these entities only need a mandate from the State to begin enforcing federal law.
We previously asked you to comment and are very concerned that a "no response" is the norm today from elected officials.
If you expect to be paid by taxpayers you should at least be willing to provide answers to their questions. If not, then perhaps you should consider another line of work.
As State Citizens, we are extremely tired of being ignored......
Sincerely,
Robert B. Murray II, Ph.D.
16436 Pride Lane
Caldwell, ID 83607
208-455-1338
rbmcjm@msn.com
Jack M. Moutrie
2686 N. Snow Goose Way
Meridian, ID 83646
208-888-6127
UnhappyAmerican@msn.com
Blog Spot: http://allaboutillegalimmigration.blogspot.com
It is quite obvious the Treasure Valley political leaders show no concern of the fact the invasion of this nation by illegal aliens is a criminal offense and is punishable by law.
It is of the opinion this Government is for the Corporations, of the Corporations, by the Corporations.
December 18, 2005, The Idaho Press-Tribune published an article written by reporter, Ben Fletcher, titled, “Most unauthorized illegals not deported.” Mr. Fletcher wrote the following; I quote;
“CANYON COUNTY - As it stands, most undocumented immigrants living locally will not be deported. A combination of policies, procedures, resources and inadequate incarceration space ensure Canyon County stands as a safe haven for illegal immigrants.
Federal agents working locally don’t shy away from offering an explanation either.
“For general illegal aliens, we do not have the resources to pursue it,”
said Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Senior Special Agent,
Jeff Wolstenholme. “We do not have the manpower to do our job.” End of quote.
Surely, you are aware of the debate going on in Congress how best to resolve the issues regarding immigration. The House has been championing a "seal the border first" approach, while the Senate has chosen to create a literal nightmare by granting legality to millions of illegal aliens. It is our contention that our nation does not need to grow by 100 million persons in the next 20-30 years, or to a billion by centuries end, to satisfy employers desire for cheaper labor. Such an approach will be disastrous for the environment and the quality of life we now enjoy.
We could cite a multitude of studies and comments dwelling on the effects of an exploding unskilled population on land use, loss of farmland, dwindling water supplies, a general increase in crime, and ever increasing costs to support these immigrants.
We feel that if you are not aware of this danger, then you owe it to your family, and descendants to learn the facts. You also owe it the citizens of the State to protect their interests, and not sellout to corporate interests for private gain.
We are perplexed why Idaho's legislature is not doing anything to control the increase in the illegal alien population.
We believe that the Federal Government has not prevented State and Local Law Enforcement from enforcing existing immigration laws, and that these entities only need a mandate from the State to begin enforcing federal law.
We previously asked you to comment and are very concerned that a "no response" is the norm today from elected officials.
If you expect to be paid by taxpayers you should at least be willing to provide answers to their questions. If not, then perhaps you should consider another line of work.
As State Citizens, we are extremely tired of being ignored......
Sincerely,
Robert B. Murray II, Ph.D.
16436 Pride Lane
Caldwell, ID 83607
208-455-1338
rbmcjm@msn.com
Jack M. Moutrie
2686 N. Snow Goose Way
Meridian, ID 83646
208-888-6127
UnhappyAmerican@msn.com
Blog Spot: http://allaboutillegalimmigration.blogspot.com
Sunday, September 10, 2006
Letter to U.S. Attorney Patrick J. Fitzgerald
September 10, 2006
Patrick J. Fitzgerald - Special Counsel
Chicago Office:
Dirksen Federal Building, Fifth Floor
219 South Dearborn Street
Chicago, Illinois 60604
Dear Sir:
Elvera Arellano, the 31-year old felon, who is holed up in the store front, Aldalberto United Methodist Church in Chicago.
It is my opinion, this woman, with her “anchor baby,” should not push their luck and get out of this country as soon as possible? She should be in prison for at least 10-years for her crimes!
We are about to lose our country, with the White House, and the U.S. Senate being the most dangerous, treasonous corrupt traitors in this once great nation, led by liberal Socialist/Communist persons pushing American Taxpaying Citizens to the edge!
Here in Idaho you would think immigration was needed. Our newspapers seldom print anything that smacks of the truth about the illegal alien problem.
December 18, 2005, The Idaho Press Tribune reported, “Canyon County a safe haven for illegal immigrants.“ Illegal aliens most unlikely to be "not" deported if they stay clean?
Legislators are just beginning to wake up to the fact that there is a serious gang problem, claiming to pass a law sometime to make it illegal for a gang member to recruit.
Our Senior Senator L.E. Craig, is pro-illegal-alien with his AgJOB S.359, the man can’t see or hear taxpaying citizens, his only love is farm owners and corporations, the big money!
What can we do?
Bush claims, “we are a nation of laws, we know” that is a damn lie, who is going to enforce the law?
Example: “Elvera Arellano in Chicago, ICE is afraid of the Mexicans” they can't arrest her?
“Are American’s the most stupid people on earth?” The answer “is yes.”
Now I must conclude that not only are we stupid, but we are also masochistic. We take great pleasure in being dominated and abused by our government. The majority of American citizens want legal immigration reduced substantially, illegal entry halted completely, and the deportation of all illegal aliens. Americans want Homeland Security,
The E.O.I.R. abolished, an illegal alien is a criminal, they must be deported, not cuddled!
Replace the Border Patrol with 36,000 U.S. Army and Marines, not the Nanny Patrol (Natl. Guard) who don’t even carry water pistols. Stop the Public Relations Scam!
The Senate is proposing a massive guest-worker amnesty to be given to 20 million plus illegal aliens. This will complete our demise as a Republic. These 20 million will quickly grow to 60 million from “family reunification” with millions more from their offspring. Amnesty is a magnet for more to come. Projections predict a U.S. population of 500 million by mid-century and over 1 billion by the year 2100.
The lead now is the North American Open Borders Union, (SPP) which Bush is now pushing for 2007 as the effective date to start, so as to meet the demands of the Council of Foreign Relations date of 2010. When complete this nation is doomed and will be destroyed.
If you don’t want to lose your country, then demand that the President and Congress enforce a halt on all immigration (legal-illegal) and start deporting all illegal aliens.
Stop all this nonsense, Taxpaying citizens can’t do a damn thing about it, we have no say. The old story, “of the people, by the people, for the people,” has been replaced,
“This government of the corporations, by the corporations, for the corporations,
Is the slogan of the liberal Socialist/Communist movement in Washington, DC.
We must stop the movement before violence and bloodshed becomes rampant and this once great nation goes up in flames. A must read, “Civil War Two: the Breakup of America, by Thomas W. Chittum, written in 1996.…. It is all there?
If we don't, then we are all stupid and are masochistic and we deserve to live in a third world country.
Unhappy American
Visit www.allaboutimmigration.blogspot.com
Patrick J. Fitzgerald - Special Counsel
Chicago Office:
Dirksen Federal Building, Fifth Floor
219 South Dearborn Street
Chicago, Illinois 60604
Dear Sir:
Elvera Arellano, the 31-year old felon, who is holed up in the store front, Aldalberto United Methodist Church in Chicago.
It is my opinion, this woman, with her “anchor baby,” should not push their luck and get out of this country as soon as possible? She should be in prison for at least 10-years for her crimes!
We are about to lose our country, with the White House, and the U.S. Senate being the most dangerous, treasonous corrupt traitors in this once great nation, led by liberal Socialist/Communist persons pushing American Taxpaying Citizens to the edge!
Here in Idaho you would think immigration was needed. Our newspapers seldom print anything that smacks of the truth about the illegal alien problem.
December 18, 2005, The Idaho Press Tribune reported, “Canyon County a safe haven for illegal immigrants.“ Illegal aliens most unlikely to be "not" deported if they stay clean?
Legislators are just beginning to wake up to the fact that there is a serious gang problem, claiming to pass a law sometime to make it illegal for a gang member to recruit.
Our Senior Senator L.E. Craig, is pro-illegal-alien with his AgJOB S.359, the man can’t see or hear taxpaying citizens, his only love is farm owners and corporations, the big money!
What can we do?
Bush claims, “we are a nation of laws, we know” that is a damn lie, who is going to enforce the law?
Example: “Elvera Arellano in Chicago, ICE is afraid of the Mexicans” they can't arrest her?
“Are American’s the most stupid people on earth?” The answer “is yes.”
Now I must conclude that not only are we stupid, but we are also masochistic. We take great pleasure in being dominated and abused by our government. The majority of American citizens want legal immigration reduced substantially, illegal entry halted completely, and the deportation of all illegal aliens. Americans want Homeland Security,
The E.O.I.R. abolished, an illegal alien is a criminal, they must be deported, not cuddled!
Replace the Border Patrol with 36,000 U.S. Army and Marines, not the Nanny Patrol (Natl. Guard) who don’t even carry water pistols. Stop the Public Relations Scam!
The Senate is proposing a massive guest-worker amnesty to be given to 20 million plus illegal aliens. This will complete our demise as a Republic. These 20 million will quickly grow to 60 million from “family reunification” with millions more from their offspring. Amnesty is a magnet for more to come. Projections predict a U.S. population of 500 million by mid-century and over 1 billion by the year 2100.
The lead now is the North American Open Borders Union, (SPP) which Bush is now pushing for 2007 as the effective date to start, so as to meet the demands of the Council of Foreign Relations date of 2010. When complete this nation is doomed and will be destroyed.
If you don’t want to lose your country, then demand that the President and Congress enforce a halt on all immigration (legal-illegal) and start deporting all illegal aliens.
Stop all this nonsense, Taxpaying citizens can’t do a damn thing about it, we have no say. The old story, “of the people, by the people, for the people,” has been replaced,
“This government of the corporations, by the corporations, for the corporations,
Is the slogan of the liberal Socialist/Communist movement in Washington, DC.
We must stop the movement before violence and bloodshed becomes rampant and this once great nation goes up in flames. A must read, “Civil War Two: the Breakup of America, by Thomas W. Chittum, written in 1996.…. It is all there?
If we don't, then we are all stupid and are masochistic and we deserve to live in a third world country.
Unhappy American
Visit www.allaboutimmigration.blogspot.com
Tuesday, August 22, 2006
Section 1 of the 14th Amendment: "jurisdiction thereof"
Washington D.C. leaders must clarify 'subject of the jurisdiction'
A recent CNN Poll (June 8-11-06) revealed that 67 percent believe our government should deport all illegal aliens, but in some fuzzy logic, 54 percent thought that children born in the United States to illegal aliens' should be citizens.
Now, it is nearly axiomatic that illegal alien parents will not be deported if they have one or more children born in the United States. The problem stems from the erroneous interpretation of 'jurisdiction' by the Supreme Court in United States v. Wong Kim Ark (169 U.S. 649, 1898) of the citizenship clause of Section 1 of the Fourteenth Amendment to our Constitution.
See www.heritage.org/Research/Legalissues/lm18.cfm
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdicition thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside..." Although some might argue that the 14th Amendment was not validly ratified, but that is another story.
However, it was clear to the author of the citizenship clause, Sen. Jacob Howard, that everyone understood the intent and meaning when he introduced the clause. Howard testified, so even a delusional Judge could understand the intended meaning of jurisdiction, "This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers..."
Thus he is just confirming what was already understood to be the national "law of the land."
In other words, it was not enough to be born within the borders of the United States or territories. A few years later Sen. James Kelly corroborated the meaning when he said, "In order to be a citizen of the United States, he must have not only been born within the United States, but born within the allegiance of the United States."
Sen. Lyman Trumbull remarked May 30, 1866, that the jurisdiction clause includes those 'not owing alleglance to anybody else... "Therefore, jurisdiction refers to political jurisdiction in the sense of allegiance and not simply subject to the laws of the United States. All visitors are subject to our laws.
Those advocating birthright citizenship based on geography need to realize this right under the 14th Amendment did not extend to Native Americans, who at the time held allegiance to the tribe rather than the United States. So why should children of illegal aliens become citizens?
Consequently, there is only one way for an alien, including children of aliens, to come under the jurisdiction of the United States, and that is through the process of our naturalization laws.
This process requires that a person renounce all allegiance to his or her country of origin, which in effect brings the alien under the jurisdiction of the United States. Therefore, only a citizen can make a citizen by childbirth; all others require naturalization.
If we are going to use the 14th Amendment as a basis for citizenship, Congress must absolutely clarify the meaning of "subject to the jurisdiction" as based on the original intent and as ratified by the states before continuing debate on immigration reform.
Robert B. Murray II
rbmcjm@msn.com
Jack M. Moutrie
UnhappyAmerican@msn.com
Additional Immigration Information: www.allaboutimmigration.blogspot.com
www.allaboutillegalimmigration.blogspot.com
A recent CNN Poll (June 8-11-06) revealed that 67 percent believe our government should deport all illegal aliens, but in some fuzzy logic, 54 percent thought that children born in the United States to illegal aliens' should be citizens.
Now, it is nearly axiomatic that illegal alien parents will not be deported if they have one or more children born in the United States. The problem stems from the erroneous interpretation of 'jurisdiction' by the Supreme Court in United States v. Wong Kim Ark (169 U.S. 649, 1898) of the citizenship clause of Section 1 of the Fourteenth Amendment to our Constitution.
See www.heritage.org/Research/Legalissues/lm18.cfm
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdicition thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside..." Although some might argue that the 14th Amendment was not validly ratified, but that is another story.
However, it was clear to the author of the citizenship clause, Sen. Jacob Howard, that everyone understood the intent and meaning when he introduced the clause. Howard testified, so even a delusional Judge could understand the intended meaning of jurisdiction, "This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers..."
Thus he is just confirming what was already understood to be the national "law of the land."
In other words, it was not enough to be born within the borders of the United States or territories. A few years later Sen. James Kelly corroborated the meaning when he said, "In order to be a citizen of the United States, he must have not only been born within the United States, but born within the allegiance of the United States."
Sen. Lyman Trumbull remarked May 30, 1866, that the jurisdiction clause includes those 'not owing alleglance to anybody else... "Therefore, jurisdiction refers to political jurisdiction in the sense of allegiance and not simply subject to the laws of the United States. All visitors are subject to our laws.
Those advocating birthright citizenship based on geography need to realize this right under the 14th Amendment did not extend to Native Americans, who at the time held allegiance to the tribe rather than the United States. So why should children of illegal aliens become citizens?
Consequently, there is only one way for an alien, including children of aliens, to come under the jurisdiction of the United States, and that is through the process of our naturalization laws.
This process requires that a person renounce all allegiance to his or her country of origin, which in effect brings the alien under the jurisdiction of the United States. Therefore, only a citizen can make a citizen by childbirth; all others require naturalization.
If we are going to use the 14th Amendment as a basis for citizenship, Congress must absolutely clarify the meaning of "subject to the jurisdiction" as based on the original intent and as ratified by the states before continuing debate on immigration reform.
Robert B. Murray II
rbmcjm@msn.com
Jack M. Moutrie
UnhappyAmerican@msn.com
Additional Immigration Information: www.allaboutimmigration.blogspot.com
www.allaboutillegalimmigration.blogspot.com
Thursday, June 01, 2006
Letter to Senator Larry Craig
Please explain if this information is true. The following I understand is installed in Senate Bill S.2611The work requirement for a blue card can be satisfied in a matter of hours. Under the AgJOBS component of the substitute, illegal alien agricultural workers who have worked 150 “workdays” in agriculture over the last 2 years will receive a “blue card,” allowing them to live and work permanently in the U.S. However, because current law defines an agricultural “workday” as 1 hour of work per day—the bill language restates that definition on page 397—an alien who has worked for as little as 150 hours—there are 168 hours in a week—in agriculture over the last 2 years will qualify for a blue card. WOULD THIS BE A TRUE STATEMENT?
Blue card aliens can only be fired for just cause, unlike an American citizen worker who is likely under an employment at will agreement with the agricultural employer.No alien granted blue card status may be terminated from employment by any employer during the period of blue card status except for just cause.Because blue card aliens are not limited to working in agriculture, this employment requirement will follow the alien at their second and third jobs as well. The bill goes as far as setting up an arbitration process for blue card aliens who allege they have been terminated without just cause. So the above is not AgJOBS, the alien is available for any job, plus all benefits, food stamps, welfare, education, medical care plus dual citizenship, at the expense of the American taxpayer! COULD THE ABOVE BE A TRUE STATEMENT?
Furthermore, the bill requires the Secretary of Homeland Security to pay the fee and expenses of the arbitrator. American citizens do not have a right to this arbitration process, why are we setting up an arbitration process for blue card aliens paid for by the American taxpayer. Regarding free legal counsel, the AgJOBS amendment goes further than paying for arbitrators, it also provides free legal counsel to illegal aliens who want to receive this amnesty.
As I understand the illegal alien gets free legal council whether he seeks amnesty or just stays here as an illegal alien. COULD THE ABOVE BE A TRUE STATEMENT?
The AgJOBS amendment specifically states that recipients of “funds under the Legal Services Corporation Act” shall not be prevented “from providing legal assistance directly related to an application for adjustment of status under this section.” Interestingly, page 414 of the bill requires the alien to have an attorney file the application for him. Not only will AgJOBS give amnesty to 1.5 million illegal aliens, it would have the American taxpayer pay the legal bills of those illegal aliens. This is unbelievable and unacceptable.
COULD THE ABOVE BE A TRUE STATEMENT?
We should not be rewarding illegal aliens who break our laws with free legal counsel and a direct path to citizenship.
Mr. Craig, do you actually feel the above is fair for American Taxpaying Citizens to support corporation so-called leaders with uneducated, unskilled labor? Most of these illegal aliens don't want to be citizens, they come here to have "anchor babies," they know everything is free, E.O.I.R. has a motto, "delay, delay, delay, until the illegal alien wins." Get cash jobs, take advantage of stupid Americans, that is what this reform is all about, aliens will never be deported! ONE LAST QUESTION....
"HAS THE COMMUNIST PARTY TAKEN OVER THE U.S. SENATE," YES OR NO?
Blue card aliens can only be fired for just cause, unlike an American citizen worker who is likely under an employment at will agreement with the agricultural employer.No alien granted blue card status may be terminated from employment by any employer during the period of blue card status except for just cause.Because blue card aliens are not limited to working in agriculture, this employment requirement will follow the alien at their second and third jobs as well. The bill goes as far as setting up an arbitration process for blue card aliens who allege they have been terminated without just cause. So the above is not AgJOBS, the alien is available for any job, plus all benefits, food stamps, welfare, education, medical care plus dual citizenship, at the expense of the American taxpayer! COULD THE ABOVE BE A TRUE STATEMENT?
Furthermore, the bill requires the Secretary of Homeland Security to pay the fee and expenses of the arbitrator. American citizens do not have a right to this arbitration process, why are we setting up an arbitration process for blue card aliens paid for by the American taxpayer. Regarding free legal counsel, the AgJOBS amendment goes further than paying for arbitrators, it also provides free legal counsel to illegal aliens who want to receive this amnesty.
As I understand the illegal alien gets free legal council whether he seeks amnesty or just stays here as an illegal alien. COULD THE ABOVE BE A TRUE STATEMENT?
The AgJOBS amendment specifically states that recipients of “funds under the Legal Services Corporation Act” shall not be prevented “from providing legal assistance directly related to an application for adjustment of status under this section.” Interestingly, page 414 of the bill requires the alien to have an attorney file the application for him. Not only will AgJOBS give amnesty to 1.5 million illegal aliens, it would have the American taxpayer pay the legal bills of those illegal aliens. This is unbelievable and unacceptable.
COULD THE ABOVE BE A TRUE STATEMENT?
We should not be rewarding illegal aliens who break our laws with free legal counsel and a direct path to citizenship.
Mr. Craig, do you actually feel the above is fair for American Taxpaying Citizens to support corporation so-called leaders with uneducated, unskilled labor? Most of these illegal aliens don't want to be citizens, they come here to have "anchor babies," they know everything is free, E.O.I.R. has a motto, "delay, delay, delay, until the illegal alien wins." Get cash jobs, take advantage of stupid Americans, that is what this reform is all about, aliens will never be deported! ONE LAST QUESTION....
"HAS THE COMMUNIST PARTY TAKEN OVER THE U.S. SENATE," YES OR NO?
Friday, May 19, 2006
Crying in My Beer by Robert B. Murray II, Ph.D.
May 19, 2006
I was so p.o. after reading what the Senate has accomplished in their rush to get us a guest worker program I wrote the following:
"President Bush and the Senate are determined to transform the United States into a corporate state. The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act (CIRA, S. 2611), if enacted, will allow 103-217 million legal immigrants to enter the U.S. over the next 20 years. Great for a corporate CEO who will enhance his fortunes at the expense of the U.S. taxpayer.
Granting citizenship provides eligibility to welfare programs like the Earned Income Credit, food stamps, medicaid, and temporary assistance to needy families. Our corporate friends will reap the benefits of new customers, while we taxpayers will pay for their presence.
Robert Rector, Heritage Foundation, estimated that granting citizenship to 85 percent of the current estimated 9-10 million illegal aliens would increase net federal fiscal costs by $16 billion per year.
The Center for Immigration Studies estimated that the federal costs of granting amnesty for only 3.8 million illegal alien households would be $19 billion per year.
Let’s expand this to the 217 million, which would result in 21.7 X $16 billion to equal a total of $347.2 billion (in current dollars) in the year 2026.
When the masses can no longer pay for such entitlements, the feudal lords will terminate such programs.
The supply of labor will be so large that wages will plummet to all time lows. The middle class will disappear and the nation will be a two class society; the rich and the poor.
The goal of the elite will have been achieved.
All those nice $250,000 houses will be foreclosed, because the owner’s cannot afford the monthly payment.
On the bright side, perhaps our corporate masters will be kind and allow our families room and board in lieu of wages. To survive we will gladly comply.
Oh well, it was a great country while it lasted!"
Robert
I was so p.o. after reading what the Senate has accomplished in their rush to get us a guest worker program I wrote the following:
"President Bush and the Senate are determined to transform the United States into a corporate state. The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act (CIRA, S. 2611), if enacted, will allow 103-217 million legal immigrants to enter the U.S. over the next 20 years. Great for a corporate CEO who will enhance his fortunes at the expense of the U.S. taxpayer.
Granting citizenship provides eligibility to welfare programs like the Earned Income Credit, food stamps, medicaid, and temporary assistance to needy families. Our corporate friends will reap the benefits of new customers, while we taxpayers will pay for their presence.
Robert Rector, Heritage Foundation, estimated that granting citizenship to 85 percent of the current estimated 9-10 million illegal aliens would increase net federal fiscal costs by $16 billion per year.
The Center for Immigration Studies estimated that the federal costs of granting amnesty for only 3.8 million illegal alien households would be $19 billion per year.
Let’s expand this to the 217 million, which would result in 21.7 X $16 billion to equal a total of $347.2 billion (in current dollars) in the year 2026.
When the masses can no longer pay for such entitlements, the feudal lords will terminate such programs.
The supply of labor will be so large that wages will plummet to all time lows. The middle class will disappear and the nation will be a two class society; the rich and the poor.
The goal of the elite will have been achieved.
All those nice $250,000 houses will be foreclosed, because the owner’s cannot afford the monthly payment.
On the bright side, perhaps our corporate masters will be kind and allow our families room and board in lieu of wages. To survive we will gladly comply.
Oh well, it was a great country while it lasted!"
Robert
Thursday, May 04, 2006
Consider Cheap Tomatoes
This email is from a retired former teacher friend whose wife is a teacher in the Riverside area, and has been for many, many years.
The attached is first hand knowledge...As you all listen to the news about the student protests over illegal immigration there are some things that you should be aware of.
As most of you know my wife is in charge of the English-as-a-second-language department at large southern California high school, which is designated a Title 1 school, meaning that its students average lower socio-economic and income levels. Most of the schools you are hearing about—South Gate High, Bell Gardens, Huntington Park, etc.—where these students are protesting, are also Title 1 schools.
My wife tells me that 100% of the students in her school and other Title 1 schools are on the free breakfast, free lunch program. When I say free breakfast I'm not talking a glass of milk and roll...but a full breakfast and cereal bar with fruits and juices that would make a Marriott proud. The waste of this food is monumental, with trays and trays of it being dumped in the trash uneaten.
She estimates that well over 50% of these students are obese or at least moderately overweight.
About 75% or more DO have cell phones. The school also provides day care centers for the unwed teenage pregnant girls (some as young as 13) so they can attend class without the inconvenience of having to arrange for baby-sitters or having family watch their kids.
She was ordered to spend $700,000 on her department or risk losing funding for the upcoming year even though there was little need for anything; her budget was already substantial. She ended up buying new computers for their computer learning center; half of which, one month later, have been carved with graffiti by the appreciative students who obviously feel humbled and grateful to have a free education in America.
She has had to intervene several times for young and substitute teachers whose classes consist of many illegal immigrant students here in the country less then 3 months who raised so much hell with the female teachers, calling them “Pu tas”—whores—and throwing things that the teachers were in tears.
Free medical, free education, free food, day care etc., etc., etc.
Is it any wonder they feel entitled to not only be in this country but to demand rights, privileges and entitlements?
To my conservative friends: I hope you're really proud of how George W. Bush has helped to sell-out this country with his pro-illegal policy. I voted for him too, but on this issue he is a disaster.
To my bleeding-heart liberal friends who want to point out how much these illegal immigrants contribute to our society because they LIKE their gardener and housekeeper and they like to pay less for tomatoes: spend some time in the real world of illegal immigration and see the TRUE costs. Higher insurance, Medical facilities closing, higher medical costs, more crime, lower standards of education in our schools, overcrowding, new diseases etc., etc., etc. For me,
I'll pay more for tomatoes.We need to wake up. The guest worker program will be a disaster because we won't have the guts to enforce it. Does anyone in their right mind really think they will leave and return voluntarily? There are many hardworking Hispanic/American citizens that contribute to our country and many that I consider my true friends. We should encourage and accept those Hispanics who have done it the right and legal way.
It does, however, have everything to do with culture: A third-world culture that does not value education, that accepts children getting pregnant and dropping out of school by 15 and that refuses to assimilate ... and an American culture that has become so weak and politically correct that we don't have the will to do anything about it.
If this makes your blood boil, as it did mine, forward this to everyone you know.
MONTY VANDERBEEK
cropsins@earthlink.net
Blog Spot-1: www.allaboutimmigration.blogspot.com
The attached is first hand knowledge...As you all listen to the news about the student protests over illegal immigration there are some things that you should be aware of.
As most of you know my wife is in charge of the English-as-a-second-language department at large southern California high school, which is designated a Title 1 school, meaning that its students average lower socio-economic and income levels. Most of the schools you are hearing about—South Gate High, Bell Gardens, Huntington Park, etc.—where these students are protesting, are also Title 1 schools.
My wife tells me that 100% of the students in her school and other Title 1 schools are on the free breakfast, free lunch program. When I say free breakfast I'm not talking a glass of milk and roll...but a full breakfast and cereal bar with fruits and juices that would make a Marriott proud. The waste of this food is monumental, with trays and trays of it being dumped in the trash uneaten.
She estimates that well over 50% of these students are obese or at least moderately overweight.
About 75% or more DO have cell phones. The school also provides day care centers for the unwed teenage pregnant girls (some as young as 13) so they can attend class without the inconvenience of having to arrange for baby-sitters or having family watch their kids.
She was ordered to spend $700,000 on her department or risk losing funding for the upcoming year even though there was little need for anything; her budget was already substantial. She ended up buying new computers for their computer learning center; half of which, one month later, have been carved with graffiti by the appreciative students who obviously feel humbled and grateful to have a free education in America.
She has had to intervene several times for young and substitute teachers whose classes consist of many illegal immigrant students here in the country less then 3 months who raised so much hell with the female teachers, calling them “Pu tas”—whores—and throwing things that the teachers were in tears.
Free medical, free education, free food, day care etc., etc., etc.
Is it any wonder they feel entitled to not only be in this country but to demand rights, privileges and entitlements?
To my conservative friends: I hope you're really proud of how George W. Bush has helped to sell-out this country with his pro-illegal policy. I voted for him too, but on this issue he is a disaster.
To my bleeding-heart liberal friends who want to point out how much these illegal immigrants contribute to our society because they LIKE their gardener and housekeeper and they like to pay less for tomatoes: spend some time in the real world of illegal immigration and see the TRUE costs. Higher insurance, Medical facilities closing, higher medical costs, more crime, lower standards of education in our schools, overcrowding, new diseases etc., etc., etc. For me,
I'll pay more for tomatoes.We need to wake up. The guest worker program will be a disaster because we won't have the guts to enforce it. Does anyone in their right mind really think they will leave and return voluntarily? There are many hardworking Hispanic/American citizens that contribute to our country and many that I consider my true friends. We should encourage and accept those Hispanics who have done it the right and legal way.
It does, however, have everything to do with culture: A third-world culture that does not value education, that accepts children getting pregnant and dropping out of school by 15 and that refuses to assimilate ... and an American culture that has become so weak and politically correct that we don't have the will to do anything about it.
If this makes your blood boil, as it did mine, forward this to everyone you know.
MONTY VANDERBEEK
cropsins@earthlink.net
Blog Spot-1: www.allaboutimmigration.blogspot.com
Tuesday, April 18, 2006
Senator Michael Crapo, (R) Idaho - Response to your remarks: Idaho Press-Tribune - April 18, 2006
The Honorable Senator Michael Crapo:
Senator Crapo, your remarks to reporter Mike Butts, Idaho Press-Tribune, 18 April 2006, "Crapo backs 'sensible' guestworker plan," shows that you do not truly understand or care what your Idaho constituents want. I am angry and disgusted with your capitulation to pro-illegal alien employers.
“Crapo said most input he has received from Idaho voters on the issue supports strong enforcement of immigration laws.”
The truth is that we want our government to stop all illegal entry. We want all 20 million illegal aliens to return to their countries of origin. We do not want a guest-worker program of any form. We want legal immigration, including asylees and refugees, to be lowered from the current 1 million to 200,000 per year. We want our federal government to enforce the current immigration laws. We want the federal government to stop “aiding and abetting illegal aliens” by funding all groups advocating illegal alien rights and providing convenient loopholes in laws so that employers are not responsible for their hiring practices. We want citizenship for children of illegal aliens to be revoked. We want a repeal of family reunification laws. We want our government to be honest with, and for its citizens and not be shills for corporate entities.
You continue to stress we are a nation of immigrants (which is not true) and a nation of law (which is only partially true according to which laws the feds choose to enforce). The majority of American citizens were born here and were not immigrants. We as a nation have the right to decide who and how many can come here. We do not want to increase our population to rival that of China and India. The massive amnesty being proposed will destroy this nation. If we are a nation of laws then why has not the nation enforced their immigration laws? Enforcement is practically non-existent, and only on rare occasions does the government make a show of enforcement of immigration law. The laws are not broken, they are being ignored or subverted by government officials charged with enforcement.
You want a guest worker program, but past experience has shown that guests are not "guests" but become permanent residents. There is no control on their children becoming citizens, and thus parents are never asked to leave. Once permanent they then can start sending for their relatives and jump on the welfare band wagon. Why call it a guest worker program. . . that’s just b.s. It is a welfare program for foreigners and employers. This is just another government scam to give employers greater profits, while showing no regard for the citizens who must shoulder the costs and endure the pain of massive population impacts. You cannot be ignorant of the fact it is the citizens who do not benefit from massive immigration whether it be legal or illegal. You and your elitist collegues can hide behind the walls of your gated communities, jet off to remote locations to avoid the crowds, while the public suffers your rewards.
Do you honestly think that “we the people” actually believe you will enforce future immigration laws? Look what happened after the promises made in 1965 and 1986. For once do what is right and enforce current immigration law and let the illegal aliens know there are “no safe havens” anymore. If you really wanted to be a leader you would act to enforce our laws and do what is necessary to insure the government inspected documents and hold employers responsible for their hiring practices! You would insure that all illegal aliens knew they will be deported and not allowed to return if they don't leave within the next six months. Surely that is not too difficult of a concept, especially when it was promised by your esteemed predecessors in Congress.
Remember you took an oath of office to obey, defend, and protect the Constitution and that you have no right to give away my country to a horde of invaders and force me to pay for the invasion. If you don't comprehend my views expressed above, then perhaps you will understand why I and many others will not vote for you should you dare run again. I am sure you will understand after the election that we the people are serious and will no longer tolerate being conned by elected officials.
Sincerely,
Robert B. Murray II, Ph.D.
P.S. Senator, you should really read Dr. Daneen G. Peterson's articles at: http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/cat_index_37.shtml for more truth about the issues re:illegal aliens and their impact on our people and nation. You owe it to your constituents, if not for the sake of your own family.
Also, I invite you to visit our blogsites to find more about our views on illegal aliens and to make comments on this letter by visiting:
www.allaboutillegalimmigration.blogspot.com
www.allaboutimmigration.blogspot.com
Senator Crapo, your remarks to reporter Mike Butts, Idaho Press-Tribune, 18 April 2006, "Crapo backs 'sensible' guestworker plan," shows that you do not truly understand or care what your Idaho constituents want. I am angry and disgusted with your capitulation to pro-illegal alien employers.
“Crapo said most input he has received from Idaho voters on the issue supports strong enforcement of immigration laws.”
The truth is that we want our government to stop all illegal entry. We want all 20 million illegal aliens to return to their countries of origin. We do not want a guest-worker program of any form. We want legal immigration, including asylees and refugees, to be lowered from the current 1 million to 200,000 per year. We want our federal government to enforce the current immigration laws. We want the federal government to stop “aiding and abetting illegal aliens” by funding all groups advocating illegal alien rights and providing convenient loopholes in laws so that employers are not responsible for their hiring practices. We want citizenship for children of illegal aliens to be revoked. We want a repeal of family reunification laws. We want our government to be honest with, and for its citizens and not be shills for corporate entities.
You continue to stress we are a nation of immigrants (which is not true) and a nation of law (which is only partially true according to which laws the feds choose to enforce). The majority of American citizens were born here and were not immigrants. We as a nation have the right to decide who and how many can come here. We do not want to increase our population to rival that of China and India. The massive amnesty being proposed will destroy this nation. If we are a nation of laws then why has not the nation enforced their immigration laws? Enforcement is practically non-existent, and only on rare occasions does the government make a show of enforcement of immigration law. The laws are not broken, they are being ignored or subverted by government officials charged with enforcement.
You want a guest worker program, but past experience has shown that guests are not "guests" but become permanent residents. There is no control on their children becoming citizens, and thus parents are never asked to leave. Once permanent they then can start sending for their relatives and jump on the welfare band wagon. Why call it a guest worker program. . . that’s just b.s. It is a welfare program for foreigners and employers. This is just another government scam to give employers greater profits, while showing no regard for the citizens who must shoulder the costs and endure the pain of massive population impacts. You cannot be ignorant of the fact it is the citizens who do not benefit from massive immigration whether it be legal or illegal. You and your elitist collegues can hide behind the walls of your gated communities, jet off to remote locations to avoid the crowds, while the public suffers your rewards.
Do you honestly think that “we the people” actually believe you will enforce future immigration laws? Look what happened after the promises made in 1965 and 1986. For once do what is right and enforce current immigration law and let the illegal aliens know there are “no safe havens” anymore. If you really wanted to be a leader you would act to enforce our laws and do what is necessary to insure the government inspected documents and hold employers responsible for their hiring practices! You would insure that all illegal aliens knew they will be deported and not allowed to return if they don't leave within the next six months. Surely that is not too difficult of a concept, especially when it was promised by your esteemed predecessors in Congress.
Remember you took an oath of office to obey, defend, and protect the Constitution and that you have no right to give away my country to a horde of invaders and force me to pay for the invasion. If you don't comprehend my views expressed above, then perhaps you will understand why I and many others will not vote for you should you dare run again. I am sure you will understand after the election that we the people are serious and will no longer tolerate being conned by elected officials.
Sincerely,
Robert B. Murray II, Ph.D.
P.S. Senator, you should really read Dr. Daneen G. Peterson's articles at: http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/cat_index_37.shtml for more truth about the issues re:illegal aliens and their impact on our people and nation. You owe it to your constituents, if not for the sake of your own family.
Also, I invite you to visit our blogsites to find more about our views on illegal aliens and to make comments on this letter by visiting:
www.allaboutillegalimmigration.blogspot.com
www.allaboutimmigration.blogspot.com
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